Curse

Stuart444 · Mar 04, 2011, 02:25 PM // 14:25

^ then don't buy 8, buy a pack of 3 or even just 1. As for money grubbing... so? They are a business after all and they need to earn money somehow.

I feel it's perfectly fair although I won't buy a pack of 8 since I don't think I'd ever use that many. a pack of 3? sure but I doubt I'd need 8 merc slots.

FengShuiDove · Mar 04, 2011, 02:42 PM // 14:42

I have to say, BEAUTIFUL update. Amazing implementation, great ideas, the title fixes are wonderful (and clearly everyone else though so too, every main town was filled with folks getting Drunkard

), and 7 heroes is such a blast.

One thing: Please update the F11 menu to be able to bind the skills on heroes 4-7. Even if it's just one skill, I'd like to be able to control a single skill cast of each hero.

JimmyNeutron · Mar 04, 2011, 03:01 PM // 15:01

I LOVE THE READY CHECK! Whoops...I wasn't ready...last minute change...Ok...I'm ready...WHOOPS again...I changed my mind...Ok...I'm set for now...WHOOPS...

LOL!!!!

Painbringer · Mar 04, 2011, 03:11 PM // 15:11

Yeah little steep on the purchase ~ my heros will work for me for free went to Shards of Orr dind level one in a few minutes (i did not even check the builds) so will be checking other places soon.

Only thing that sucks is this came out the same week as the beta for PVP on Cyrsis 2

Oh well just need to play all the more

Anyone notice better AI on walking into traps etc..?

Twysted Troll · Mar 04, 2011, 03:49 PM // 15:49

Love this Update!!

not bothered about mercs... 7 heroes is fine with me

Finally got space in my storage after using all those eggnogs i had been saving up dreading the day i was going to tackle the Drunkard title,
now one log in later i have my Ale hound,
as for too easy, not really , i still had to aquire the alcohol,
i dont see clicking the mouse every minute/3 minutes as hard ... it was just mindnumbingly stupid way of "playing" a game ... not fun ... and i always play to have fun

I think with the changes they have made idiotic grinds more fun and sensible to achieve

<thumbs up from the Troll>

agrios · Mar 04, 2011, 04:21 PM // 16:21

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Originally Posted by dancing gnome

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Hell I don't even think EotN costs more than $45 from the ArenaNet in game store.

In no way is $45 even remotely close to a reasonably priced feature. They have the players by the balls and they know anyone who is still playing 6 years after the game is released is going to pay insane amounts for incredibly unreasonably priced features if they want them at all. It's a slap in the face to everyone else that they happen to give you a gameplay advantage in the process... or another marketing exploit.

QFT

How much costs a DLC nowadays?

As I said earlier, 45 is a bit overpriced imho, its the retail price of most new games atm. At $45 my answer is "no thank you".

I love the game, I want to support these guys, but I want to make it with a fair price.

$20-25 for 8 slots its sure-buy.

Tullzinski · Mar 04, 2011, 04:31 PM // 16:31

Time to play Guild Wars again!

Apok · Mar 04, 2011, 04:37 PM // 16:37

You know you guys don't have to buy the mercenaries, right?

Don't complain that you have to pay for a DVD when you've already seen the movie.

Dzjudz · Mar 04, 2011, 04:39 PM // 16:39

Hardly the point.

A11Eur0 · Mar 04, 2011, 07:08 PM // 19:08

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Originally Posted by Verene

Honestly, I don't think $45 is that big of a deal. It's still significantly less than a brand new game would cost.

I would have gone for that myself, really, if not for the fact that I've got to shell out money for car repairs this week. I'll just have to remember to unequip the three I have if I decide to replace them with a different character.

You can get most brand new games, NOT 6 YEAR OLD ONES, for $40-60. For $45 in a 6 year old game you're getting 8 custom skinned heroes when you already have what....30? Justifying that it's "less than a brand new game" is ridiculous. Justifying that it's cheaper than buying 8 individually is just as ridiculous. The sum of $45 for 8 custom skins on heroes is laughable, especially when they don't link runes or weapons from the actual characters.

Apok: no, we don't have to buy them. That's why we're not. We WOULD, however, if they were priced reasonably. 8 mercenary slots for $20 would be an instant purchase on my part. I'd do it during my lunch break. Alienating an arbitrary 75% of the playerbase during a recessed economy with a grossly overpriced "shiny" feature, or pricing it reasonably and getting that amount from, say, 75% of the playerbase. Let's do some simple arbitrary math:

1 million players. 250,000 buy the $45 package. That's $11,250,000.
1 million players. 750,000 buy the same package but for $20. That's $15,000,000. Now, we all can guess that these numbers are probably inflated. I'd be very surprised if more than 10,000 players buy the full package. But I can make a reasonable hypothesis that Anet will get a significant increase in revenue by dropping the price, simply due to volume.

But this has been stated before ad nauseum and has been ignored. I don't just want a "sale day" special, either. What if I'm busy that week and don't notice the "half off" price? they did that for the Storage panes, and I was working so much that I missed the window. If it were all the time, I'd have a full Xunlai box, instead of the 4 plus materials that I have now. That's money that Anet lost out on, and they're losing out on even more now.

HawkofStorms · Mar 04, 2011, 07:12 PM // 19:12

Only 7 heroes? WTF A.net. I guess I can't solo Urgoz with H/H. 11 or else

(I kid)

Improvavel · Mar 04, 2011, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Mercenary heroes are mostly cosmetic (unless you want to make full parties of the same profession).

The fact that you need to strip all you merc heroes based on the same character if you want to update their appearance is extremely annoying.

rick1027 · Mar 04, 2011, 10:31 PM // 22:31

loved the update had way too positives minion ui 7 hero update and pre quests never wanted to death level have a char that needed it but never wanted to do it same with drunk title just didnt want to waste the time able to clear out all those unwanted alcohols in storage a whole pane... so thanks anet loved it

Chocobo1 · Mar 04, 2011, 10:43 PM // 22:43

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Originally Posted by Stuart444

Count up how much 8 mercs would be if you bought them all with single merc slots, or even two packs of three and two of one? You see how it would add up to be more than $45?

It's a way to allow people to buy in bulk and save some money unlike if they bought one at a time. The pack is made cheaper than if you bought one at a time so if people wanted to, they could buy a big pack like that.

When you think about it like that, the $45 is perfectly fair imo

You realize that they determined the price of them right? Now this is really going to depend on what you call fair, so I'm not expecting to convince anyone. But just in my opinion, a hero slot is not worth $9. The bulk pack is designed to make you think you are getting a bargain for $45 when in reality you are just getting ripped of right from the get go. I don't know how people can not see this, unless they truly believe that a slot is worth $9 a piece.

Yol · Mar 04, 2011, 11:29 PM // 23:29

Best update from ANet in a long time! Embark beach is lovely, the changes to drunkard and survivor make sense (speaking as someone who already has an ale hound and a pre-titles main), and the use of full hero parties will open up parts of the game to me that haven't been so accessible (e.g. I can casually stroll through uw now and enjoy the scenery without worrying about other players). I'm not too fussed about the mercenary hero feature....I can afford it but I don't need it.

Lasai · Mar 04, 2011, 11:31 PM // 23:31

I feel that determining the value of my entertainment dollars is up to me.

45 dollars, will access what will really be 8 x 15 heroes for all my chars, and any future chars. That is dirt cheap over the course of the game,

My heroes will at last, be mine. Their fancy armor will be to my taste, not a narrow choice of hero sets.

This will effect my visual enjoyment of the game and enhance the value of the time I have spent collecting elite armors as well.

I don't think any game has offered any purchaseable content that generated the level of excitement I feel over this.

So, for me.. I have no issues with the price. Others may disagree, but the choice is theirs to make. I'll get more enjoyment over time from this than my boys do blowing 60 bucks on an Xbox game they beat in a week and throw in a drawer.

MrVivi · Mar 04, 2011, 11:51 PM // 23:51

personally did not like the drunk and sur title change its a slap in the face for all of as who did it the old way. plus what si the point of the HoM Calc if u are gonna make it possible to get to 50/50 super easy and again slap for the people that had to sweat blood to get there.

Dzjudz · Mar 05, 2011, 12:16 AM // 00:16

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Originally Posted by MrVivi

personally did not like the drunk and sur title change its a slap in the face for all of as who did it the old way. plus what si the point of the HoM Calc if u are gonna make it possible to get to 50/50 super easy and again slap for the people that had to sweat blood to get there.

I got drunkard and survivor the old fashioned way and I don't care. So not 'all of us' I think.

go cubs · Mar 05, 2011, 12:20 AM // 00:20

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Originally Posted by Dzjudz

I got drunkard and survivor the old fashioned way and I don't care. So not 'all of us' I think.

Same here, got survivor and drunk max before update, I even got survivor before eotn, and I couldn't care less that they changed these. Especially drunkard, that title was broken

A11Eur0 · Mar 05, 2011, 02:10 AM // 02:10

Got drunkard before this update, never bothered with survivor...if I get it, so be it. Also not worried about LDOA...

Who cares what other people think? If YOU know, and the people YOU care about know that you did it the hard way, that's all that matters.